Even if he had wanted to adopt more conventional tastes, James couldn't have. "The human body turns me off — women wear perfumes; guys sweat. It irks me. You can show me pictures of nude models and it doesn't turn me on. I think the human body is kind of stupid. A big-horned sheep, certain breeds of dogs, are much more physically attractive to me than a woman with big breasts or a man with a big penis."

James suggested I speak with his friend, a 44-year-old man from the western United States who also asked to speak under a pseudonym. Ron, as we'll call him, uses an internet connection and email that make it nearly impossible to track his IP address. Our interview occurred through Yahoo Messenger. Ron tells of a fantasy about horses when he was teenager, but acting it out seemed impossible to him. It remained that way through his teens and almost his 20s, "until the day I found by accident a porn site with pictures of men and women having intimacy with horses," Ron says. "I realized that it was possible, and I have not looked back since."

In fact, he has an attraction to several animals — among them: dogs, horses, and goats. Raised a Southern Baptist, Ron says his first struggle was with bisexuality and that after some soul-searching, he ultimately decided that "God is more concerned with how we treat others than what sex we have."

Both Ron and James interact with fellow zoophiles through websites, and neither has found patterns that typify the discovery of one's attractions nor commonalities in background or life experiences. James rattles off a long list of zoophiles he's known who occupy different demographic categories: "white, black, Asian, Mormon, Amish, Catholic, atheist, pagan, Jewish, male and female, and two who are legally blind."

Among the seven zoophiles I consulted for this article, all say that theirs is an orientation and that to meet the definition, one must not harm an animal. For this reason, a man who has sex with chickens, for instance, is not a zoophile because the act is sure to hurt if not kill the chicken. Zoophiles I spoke with say they are as opposed to forcing sex upon animals as the rest of society is opposed to the rape of humans.

In fact, a zoophile from Southwest Florida named Malcolm Brenner wrote Senator Rich a letter voicing support for the principles of her bill — if not for the assumptions that underlie it. "I said I agreed with her trying to prevent animal abuse, but I tried to point out that what gets reported in the news is not zoophilia," Brenner says. "These are instances of bestiality that have injured the animal."

Brenner, a 58-year-old freelance writer, says he hopes to publish a novel he's chipped away at for 30 years titled Wet Goddess: Recollections of a Dolphin Lover. It's the fictionalized account of a love affair he had with a dolphin, named Ruby in the novel.

Around age 11, Brenner began to experience urges he knows now as "mixoscopic zoophilia" — the term for watching two animals have sex. Except in Brenner's fantasy, he says, "I was one of animals who were mating."

Though Brenner wasn't raised in a religious family, he knew he was exploring attractions forbidden by society. "I had a relationship with my family's dog, and I felt very ashamed about that. I hadn't developed an attraction toward women."

He tried, though. And Brenner says he almost convinced himself, except for the persistence of the dolphin. He met her in the '70s, as a teenager, while photographing dolphins in an amusement park called Floridaland, in Osprey. The photos were to be illustrated in a book by a family friend.

"The dolphin developed an attraction toward me," Brenner says. "And she had to work very hard to get me to respond to what she wanted."

It was a rough courtship. "When you're in the water with a dolphin, you do whatever they want you to," Brenner says. In this dolphin's case, he adds, "If you don't do what they want, they'll push you to the bottom of a 12-foot pool."

When that didn't work, Brenner says, the dolphin tried a gentler, subtler seduction. "She would take my leg very lightly in her jaws and run her teeth up and down my leg," he says. "It's an incredible sensation. I don't know if other people would find it erotic, but I certainly did."

That method overcame Brenner's resistance. He consummated his flirtations with the dolphin. "It was the most intense experience I've ever had," he says. "A transcendental experience. I felt I was completely wrapped up."

The power of it scared him, though. He didn't want to develop an attachment to her, not just because of their difference in species but because they were going in different directions: The dolphin's amusement park had closed, and she'd been sold to one in Gulfport, Mississippi; Brenner was attending school that fall in Olympia, Washington. "I felt bad about leaving her," he says of Ruby. "But quite frankly, I was weirded out. I felt I needed to get in a relationship with a woman."

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Zeta
Zeta

Very, very interesting article. I was highly impressed by the content and the sheer length and depth of it. 

It's a shame I'm five years late, but still very glad I read it. I had no idea all of this happened.


I have enormous respect for this Cody Beck guy, what a hero.

kevinstanleyestrada
kevinstanleyestrada

The Bible prohibits bestiality. "Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."- Leviticus 18:23 (KJV). Those who practice bestiality are cursed. "Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen."- Deuteronomy 27:21 (KJV). Back in Old Testament times, whoever committed bestiality were killed and also the animals.

"Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."- Exodus 22:19 (KJV), & "15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. 16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."- Leviticus 20:15-16 (KJV). These laws are no longer enforced.


The_Captain
The_Captain

I am sorry but homosexuality is no more on the same level as bestiality anymore than eating chicken being on the same table as cannibalism. What goes on between two consenting adults is one thing, but an animal that cannot give its consent is completely different.  They seem to labor under the false dichotomy of "if it feels good then it must be ok."  But clearly we could draw analogies that blow that concept apart.  These "zoophiles" need deep deep psychological help.  From what we know of nature animals don't even mate for pleasure other than the dolphin.  They mate because of instinct and a need to reproduce.  So their sexual desire is one sided.  Those animals have no concept of morality.  They ARE ANIMALS!!!  All they know is something is trying to mate with them so their instinct says to go along with it.  But the big question I would ask is..when does it end?  When do you get to the point of "You know even though I am sexually attracted to (insert here) that might be immoral and dangerous and illegal and maybe even..oh I don't know...SICK"?  I am sorry if they are attracted to animals and they feel that have to hide, but what they need to do is seek professional help and understand that just because you feel something doesn't always mean its right.  What happens when you find yourself attracted to a corpse or a child or some other being that cannot give you a proper consent because they are UNABLE to due to the fact they cannot speak because they are dead, or not human, or too young to even understand what the HELL you are talking about.

cowboys2568
cowboys2568

I do not understand how having sex with an animal is cruel to that animal.  After all that is one of their basic and primal instincts.  I wholeheartedly do not believe in animal cruelty.  But you will never make me believe that sex with an animal is cruel to that animal.  It is definitely different in our society, but cruel?  How would you like it if someone said that you could not have sex with a partner?  Not fun, right?  Think about it.

acasinofriend
acasinofriend

Ever Tried It With A NonConsenting Animal....  RIGHT....  It Would HURT....  Marry Their Gay Dog....  They Are Civil Righted....

Scott823
Scott823

Please call the school and stand against this sick perverted stuff being taught in high-schools: 

(480) 575-2400


Rebel
Rebel

I don't think beastiality is anything like homosexuality. Homosexuality is between two consenting adults. A man can deny the amorous advances of another man. Just the same with polygamy/polyamory, consenting adults can decide if they want to be in marriage with multiple people. But animals don't have the capacity to resist sexual encounters and can't process what it is that is happening to them just like a child can't. I think beastiality and pedophilia should be viewed as the exact same thing: a demented individual forcing themselves on someone innocent and helpless for their own pleasure. Zoophiles, pedophiles, and rapists should all fry in an electric chair. Why are so many of them still out on the streets?

gaynorhenry
gaynorhenry

If two adult people wish to have sex with each other - gay, straight, bisexual, lesbian, swingers, whatever - I could not give a rats behind but when you are talking about having sex with childrenor animals (who in many respects are like children), then there is something wrong with you. Like sex with children the physical and psychological damage done to an animal is incalculable. These sick bastards should be forced to undergo chemical castration so they have no desires - period! 

roxannafuller
roxannafuller

This is nothing but rape of poor animal's that can not protect themselves. An unGodly act. If they do not repent and seek the creator, they will bust Hell wide open. Plain and simple.

eutawangel
eutawangel

Another example of someone depraved & given over to it vs. hearing the inner voice that said from the beginning this is wrong.  Many folks in the place Cody is headed whom would welcome another chance to repent.  SIck & sad...

adamreed1
adamreed1

The ownley thing makes us different from all of the dumb ignorant rapeist and those child molesters is that we have a highly clear congence and from my experience I can say this a animals mind is far more superior then the humans mantality for example you humans think of them as pets and food and a companion but put your self in their paws hoofs or fangs how do you think the animal kingdom see us as the same way we looked at them pets food and companions and the Bible says thy shall not lay with a beast for he or she is unclean and most people thougtht it ment animals and that's not what it ment that verse means we shall not lay with rapeist and child molestersfor that are the uncleanist

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Police are sodomites. Why do they want to act like sodomites outside the door of Lots house? The people not receiving the things of God will war seeking a sacrifice against whoever. They are carnally minded.The carnal minded person is against the zoo, pedo, gay, nudist, furry and their nude and sexual art. Carnally minded people are for a military that destroys or jails that give nothing that is good.  Carnally minded people are against them giving fear of engaging in sex etc. God had sex with Mary when she was younger than 13. Devils will see that as an opportunity to attack God like a predictable pharisee or whatever religious person spotted by the word. Stop condemning or be by Gods glory condemned. I keep telling people this. Seekers  of a sacrifice need  to see this turning away from seeking a sacrifice.  People being jailed, tortured, and executed are being treated just like Jesus was treated. Religious people wanted that for Jesus. World,... wake up. Those that wake up will not be in Gog and Magog not adding to the lake of fire kindled by Gods glory. God the judge of all deciding who is worthy to be in his Kingdom. Why condemn yourselves attempting to take Gods place? Satan wants to do that. All of us are animals.  All of us have sex. Humane Society one of the institutions at war against life being an altering machine acting like they care.

Unequal relationships - UNEQUAL RELATIONSHIPS? I will shoot that down. What do you think no preeminence means folks? Read Ecclesiastes 3:18:20 KJV. The violent people are against the zoo. I have seen transformation after transformation. You had better call all sex violent then you beast, mammal, vertebrate, fleshy mammalian animal.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Police are sodomites. Why do they want to act like sodomites outside the door of Lots house? The people not receiving the things of God will war seeking a sacrifice against whoever. They are carnally minded.The carnal minded person is against the zoo, pedo, gay, nudist, furry and their nude and sexual art. Carnally minded people are for a military that destroys or jails that give nothing that is good.  Carnally minded people are against them giving fear of engaging in sex etc. God had sex with Mary when she was younger than 13. Devils will see that as an opportunity to attack God like a predictable pharisee or whatever religious person spotted by the word. Stop condemning or be by Gods glory condemned. I keep telling people this. Seekers  of a sacrifice need  to see this turning away from seeking a sacrifice.  People being jailed, tortured, and executed are being treated just like Jesus was treated. Religious people wanted that for jests. World,... wake up. Those that wake up will not be in Gog and Magog not adding to the lake of fire kindled by Gods glory. God the judge of all deciding who is worthy to be in his Kingdom. Why condemn yourselves attempting to take Gods place. Satan wants to do that. All of us are animals.  All of us have sex. Humane Society one of the institutions at war against life being an altering machine acting like they care.

Unequal relationships - UNEQUAL RELATIONSHIPS? I will shoot that down. What do you think no preeminence means folks? Read Ecclesiastes 3:18:20 KJV. The violent people are against the zoo. I have seen transformation after transformation. You had better call all sex violent then you beast, mammal, vertebrate, fleshy mammalian animal.

Kronos7
Kronos7

You're all a bunch of sickassed mutha fukkers on here.

rfwisthehegemon
rfwisthehegemon

I AM A ZOO TOO, I CAME PUBLIC WHEN I WAS DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN IN 2007, AND NO ONE IN MY PLATOON CARED, LOL INFACT IT WAS REALY LOOKED UPON LIKE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS AFTER COMBAT. LOL

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

The fact of the matter is bestiality zoosexuality is a sexual activity even by the name.  When heterosexuals are not arrested when  seen having whoopee publicly, and when age limits for seeing nude, and sexual art is lifted with age restrictions on seeing natural nude, and sexual art the zoosexual will know true freedom.  Jesus  frees people working through people.

bulldozerbegins
bulldozerbegins

They mocked those of use who warned of a slippery slope.  Now, pedophilia is everywhere.  And the majority of new cases that make the news are gay pedophiles.  Now, those who want to defile animals, complete with the mental gymnastics they must perform to justify it, have the nerve to say they're entitled to enjoy the same success as Crookeds.  


We don't need they-who-should-be-destroyed-along-with-the-animal.  We need to return to a time when it was shameful to live together with a straight partner outside of marriage.  Or we will destroy ourselves as a society.  


Part of divine judgement is "giving them over to a reprobate mind."  Keep saying you want this, you'll get it.  And everything that goes with it.

totalbetty1234
totalbetty1234

I was just reading through the comments here and i have to say. I am someone who is truly open minded and i accept all. If you are sexual attracted to dogs then i think that's fine who is anyone to tell you what you can and cant like. I don't like sex of any kind and people look at me like i'm weird because i don't get sexual urges. You be who you want to be don't let anyone tell you its wrong. One thing that is wrong though is comparing bestiality to homosexuality. Its wrong because its implying that gays and animals are on the same level of respect and deserve the same rights. A homosexual is a person who can walk talk and speak their mind. A animal has most of these traits but cannot clearly communicate with humans so it is not a citizen it deserves no rights. There should always be a separation between things like sexual preferences and religion that's just like when the Mormons didn't want the Polygamist to call themselves Mormon Polygamist. When you take something and change certain things about it it becomes new like taking sex and then adding a person or a gender or an animal all different names each only related by one thing and that is the intercourse part. If people want equality then start your own movement don't try to horn in on the gay rights movement when they fought all these years ALONE to have the same rights as others. Put in your own work in this day and age anything is possible to achieve as long as you work toward it. 

Ending Thoughts For Everyone: 

"Many people use the "consent" issue against sex with animals (zoosexuality). However, did a cow consent to be turned into meat for a hamburger? Do dogs consent to be put in kennels? Do animals consent to be tested on in laboratories? Do animals consent to be neutered? NO."

rosannarmiller
rosannarmiller

@The_Captain Isn't that a little judgmental on your part? You believe that both parties simply need to consent but they don't believe in your god or care what you have to say. Homosexuals also labor under the same dichotomy, if it feels good, let's do it. How in the world is psychological going to help them? They were born that way, just like you. It never ends. The possibilities that homosexuals have opened the door and are opening the door for is endless. 


I think it is so ironic, I have heard people say the same thing to homosexuals,
"I am sorry if they are attracted to the same sex and they feel that have to hide, but what they need to do is seek professional help and understand that just because you feel something doesn't always mean its right.

Oh, wait and see, it gets better! Not.

jessicaneema
jessicaneema

@The_Captain hate to break it to u but animals can give consent. I know aluzky online has consensual sex with his dog, he knows when the dog wants to be petted or when he wants sex. so ur talk is basic ignorance. or u need deeep deep psychological help that u deny the rights of someone with a sexual orientation, dont be a hypocrite, if gays can get married without the consent of the hetero community, then why cant a man have sex with a dog. how does it effect u? i mean if the dog was out on the treets getting homo raped by another dog, then u wouldnt mind, right? bec the homo rape gives credence to why gays should have rights? hahaha. then explain why there are homo dogs, i think even dogs can tell when an action doesnt result in reproduction. Humans are animals and since the main basis of gays is..well, gays exsist in the animal kingdom, also inter species rape exsists too, try two dogs raping a cat on utuube and see that ur a bigoted hypocrite. maybe they need to seek about as much professional help as gays. tell me which cure has assisted for gays and apply that to zoosexuals, it will work right? oh, i support corpse sex to, bec as my right to define marriage as man and woman has been overturned so has ur right to define ur dead body as sacred is overturned bec it interfers with the rights of necrophiles, an alternate SEXUAL ORIENTATION. and child rape will never be legal cause it hurts the kid, a corpse cant be hurt nor give a rape case, idiot, start being more open minded, ur gay friends wont like u if ur bigoted.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@The_Captain Jesus in a human will not crucify another human being. People want to crucify a person based on a sexuality name whatever that name is. Satan in a person seeks to crucify another.1Corintians :2: 6Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

.http://www.christianbook.com/kjv-bonded-leather-black-large-print/9781936428151/pd/428153.

jessicaneem
jessicaneem

@Rebel oh right, and thats why when some animals are petted against their will, they slash their claws and try to bite him. people have died trying to have relations with animals. dont mix children and animals, makes u an idiot. no, homosexuality, beastality and pedophilia are the same thing, all sexual orientatiosns and ur speech maks u a bigoted asshole. ur a demented individual and a hypocritical bigot who forced his views on others.  all homo lovers should fry in the electic chair, that way pedos, necros and zoos will never get rights based on their sexual orientation.

roxannafuller
roxannafuller

For humans were created in Gods own image. People that do this need Christian counseling. I didn't say anything about religion. Being a true Christian is having a true relationship with God. Hell is real people. I pray Jesus will return soon. This world has gone crazy.

kevinstanleyestrada
kevinstanleyestrada

@kobidobidog  kobidobidog, stop using the Bible to justify homosexuality, bestiality, and other forms of sexual sins. The Bible clearly prohibits homosexuality and bestiality. "22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."- Leviticus 18:22-23 (KJV). If you are not saved, I highly recommend that you repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your own personal Lord and Saviour. Good bye, take care, and God bless you kobidobidog.

Folly
Folly

@kobidobidog You are disgusting. Your writing is nearly unintelligible, and you are verifiably insane. Carnally minded people think about sex, their own pride, etc. all the time. Carnal people do not fear perversion, they ARE PERVERSION. People who struggle to be upright and to rise above their darker nature fear perversion. You are not upright.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@Kronos7 Jesus came to set people free .Jesus did not come with  jails to put people into them. Jesus came to set people free. Set the  zoo free. When people submit to the Lord in me people become peacful. Devils hate belong peacful.

jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog I am sorry but you are proof that the slippy slope argument is not a joke. Opening Pandora's box was a mistake. Your comment takes an experiential approach to morality. It exists therefor it must be moral. This is idiotic as it would take me two seconds to list so many things that are universally abhorred as unanimously unaccepted evil. Adding Jesus at the end of it was an empty gesture after examining that context.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@bulldozerbegins The reprobate mind is a malicious murdring mind that is implacable without any love or no natural affection.That is what is against the zoosexual. people need to follow this.people against the zoosexual do not follow this.. James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

People against the zoo destroy  them with a lot more than their mouth.
Luke 6:36 - Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

People against the zoo don't know what mercy is.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Love is good. Give it to the zoo.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

People against the zoo do not seek peace no way no how. How are the people against the zoo blessed?
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Peple never think about that. People attack anyone like the sodomites wanting to do ill to Lot outside his house.
1 Peter 2:12 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Be ye kind to the zoosexual.
John 13:34
:A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Love the zoosexual. God has spoken.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Based on Romans 1: 20, KJV, people against the zoosexual are in their minds malicious wanting to kill being in their heats being murderers. They hate having no natural affection, meaning, having no love. People against the zoo are full of debate, and implacable haters of God hating everyone full of deceit, and envy. They are boasters wanting to say AH - HA I caught you. They are unmerciful whisperers. They are without understanding inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, and covenant breakers, back bitters, despiteful full of all uprightness knowing the Judgment of God that they that commit such things continue to condemn people ending up condemning themselves having pleasure in condemning themselves.  Those people are against the one who has sex with another species. The people that have sex with another species are being falsely accused.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

A reprobate mind will war calling it very good.even as you in your mind are warring.  Gods judgment is is light -  his glory that will be like a consuming fire to evil.  The devils in you know that is true.

Sex before the law of man was marriage. Two becoming one.  The  non human animals have perfect love in them being like Jesus is.  That is what  angers the devil in people calling them to war.  The person called the Pedo is treated the same way Jesus was treated.  The dog  does not condemn themselves judging themselves.  The dog will get to heaven before the condemner.  The condemner will walk up to the gates of heaven never being able to enter because the light of God will be a consuming fire.  You are the way you are because religions lied about what hell is, and about what God hated.

 Lets look at Gods word. HMmmmmmno no  mention of any eexual activity with another species as being  abominable.

KJV, Pro; 6;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren,

I can go on, and on like this with the word perverted, defiled, and naughty too. The devil is described by those words not sex of any kind.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 Homosexuality, zoosexuality and heterosexuality engages in one named activity. Can you tell me what that activity name is? 

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 We eat, drink, poop, piss, eukaryote cells, physiologically, biologically, scientifically, chemically, microscopically, fight flight, territorial instincts of an animal putting up fences, no trespass signs. KJV, Ecc 3;18-20. Argument against the zoo have holes big enough to drive a galaxy thorough. The non human animal has perfect love not giving guilty not condemning not accusing anyone about anything. 

Religion is against the gay zoosexual,and Jesus too. 

Mark 14:1-9, the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death, John 12;10 the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death.
John 11:50  53Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. People want to arrest,and kill the zoo, People wanted to arrest, and kill Jesus. can't you see a parallel here?

You are right about the  consent issue .  People that yell consent must believe  that body language must not exist.


landingnlondon
landingnlondon

@jessicaneema   You are totally messed up if you think that dog is giving consent not to mention what it is doing to the animal internally. My female cat sticks her butt up when she is in heat but I can promise you she doesn't want a human screwing her! You sickening little twit!

rosannarmiller
rosannarmiller

@jessicaneema "......and child rape will never be legal"....you have no clue. Have you heard of nambla.org? They are pushing for it. Don't think it will never be because I am sure that no one ever thought slaughtering people based on their belief in God would be legal but it was. And get enough of them in congress.....yeah. As a matter of fact, it is legal in other countries, why do you think it couldn't happen here?

I hope and pray that I nor anyone in the future sees that day!

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog Morality is being like Jesus is. Jesus is our example but people seem to think that Jesus taught us to to
think,..Hmmmm Let me think,...... who can I arrest today?  There must
be something.   OH yea,.... I know I will make a law and say it is an
arrestable offensive,... yea that's it.  Jesus did not do that, correct? That is what people do,  correct?Did you read anything I wrote?Condemning is satanic. God abhors condemners.  Why do you think the KJV says do not condemn, for the fun of it? Legal system,military, and police that Kill are to God abominable abhorring that. Persecutors are abhorred by God too.
KJV, Pro; 6;16 says what God hates nothing about any form of sex, but the character of people against the zoo is included in what God hates in KJV, Pro; 6;16.  Are you blind?.Your body is evil walking on life  killing life and eating life to live.  The body that dies sees Gods glory as hell. Aparently morrality to you is make a person less that you to make you feel justified to kill people like religions people wanting  bad to happen to Jesus thinking they were crafty to have him stoned or  pushed off a cliff or trying to trap him to say AH - Ha  or mocked him or spit upon him, and scourged, and ridiculed him, and pierce him with a spear having thorns on his head.  That is your mortality.  The morrality the devil would like.

bulldozerbegins
bulldozerbegins

@kobidobidog You are truly warped.  You're the one starting a debate with me.  And to use something in a way it was never meant to be used is not love.

And to say judgment is light when grace is exhausted?  Blasphemy.


I see you make a habit of waking up in the morning, pondering: "Gee...how can I twist scripture today?"  You are an illustration of the very mental gymnastics I was talking about.

totalbetty1234
totalbetty1234

@kobidobidog @totalbetty1234 

The bible also says that if a woman gets pregnant out of wedlock that she should be taken to her fathers house and stoned. Since this is obviously barbaric who would actually consider doing it nowadays. the bible was written long ago in a different time era so before anyone goes preaching about how it is unnatural and against god why do you read through the bible a couple times there are many things people do in this life time that is against god you don't see those people being punished and told that who they are is wrong and attack for it. I say if you are going to mentally or physically attack a gay make sure you stone your mother aunt grandmother or sister first because i am 99% positive someone in your family had a child before marriage. It is time to stop the hate and violence and accept new things. Just to make things clear though sexual preference is sexual preference just like you can't stop yourself from finding men/ women attractive its the same ways for homesexuals, zoosexuals, pansexuals, and pedophiles. No one chooses to be attracted to something it just sort of happens. Even if it isn't right or people consider it sick most people can't help themselves.

jessicaneem
jessicaneem

@landingnlondon @jessicaneema ur totally messed up if u think two men and two women deserve marriage rights or can parent  a child better than normal parents. yeah, i cant imagine what animals go through when they are netuered, forced to live outside among trash cans and raped by other animals, or forced to be put down bec some owners can't take responsibility.  how do u know? have u tried fingering her, have u made any attempt to satisfy her needs. just bec u dont think becaue u have no zoosexual tendencies, u think u can shoot off ur bigoted hypocricial mouth, zoophobe. i am determined to make zoosexual, necrophile, and pedophilia legal (animated child porn) just so i can say "screw u" to u disgusting gay lovers  ur a bigoted, ignorant stupid twit. and u will learn ur place soon.

Folly
Folly

@kobidobidog @jesopash  Yet again, I find you to be verifiably insane. I don't even know how you can function enough to use a keyboard, let alone make sentences.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog1 Peter 3 %s%s
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
Peace is what the zoo wants,but those against the zoo see peace as a piece of crap to flush down a toilet.

Phi: 2,.3Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.The zoo is seen by persecutors as being less than you. That is warring against them seeking vain glory.

1 Thessalonians 4:11:%s
And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

The people against people cannot do that either.They are biting at the bit tyo disobey that piece of instruction too.

Mark 12:31:And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

War Lords against the zoosexual can't keep that verse because waring is not loving anyone.

There is a war is against the zoo.  The zoo wars against no one.  Sex is not perverted.  Look all of these verse up.  All of them are interconnected describing the character of Satan not sex  or nudity.•    Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire this means deviant does not mean sex or nudity either.. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.KJV.


jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog@jesopash"OH yea,.... I know I will make a law and say it is an
arrestable offensive,... yea that's it.  Jesus did not do that, correct? That is what people do,  correct?" and yet Jesus plainly called out the legalistic for ignoring the weightier matters of the Law. He ragged on sin constantly. "condemning is satanic. God abhors condemners"You use a half truth about condemnation to tell a whole lie about conviction. A Christain talks about sin to please God and to bring about conviction, the very healing self admission that what you are doing is sin. Preach God's love and the world will give you a standing ovation. Mention the sin word even once and they will hate and crucify you like they did Jesus. All have sinned and fallen short kobi so the superiority accusation is kind of sad and betraying a lack of understanding of the Gospel message itself. Your morality completely skips the conviction part and just wanders on in preaching "love" and "acceptance" without ever talking about repentance. Jesus does not preach love and acceptance He preaches love and repentance. curse me as much as you like for telling the truth it will not change what we will both face God for. There is only one saving Grace on that day and that is Jesus. all of your sanctimonious talk will not change that unwavering standard. You think that being a "good person" is going to save you and that will be hellishly wrong. Repent before Christ it is your only chance, lashing out at me will not matter I am not who we have to answer to.

jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog@jesopashOKay l3et's actually crack open that KJV that you are so fond of

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, (you are very proud of what you are promoting) a lying tongue( that would take 2 seconds to prove in your case), and hands that shed innocent blood( bestiality is animal abuse),

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations(wicked imaginations? hmmmmmm...sexual perversions much?), feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren( so preaching a "new gospel" that ignores sin is not divisive and lying? really?).

20 My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother: (you are not doing that)

the next time you try to quote Scripture try doing it in context first.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@bulldozerbegins@kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog1 Peter 3 >>King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
Peace is what the zoo wants,but those against the zoo see peace as a piece of crap to flush down a toilet.

Phi: 2,.3Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.The zoo is seen by persecutors as being less than you. That is warring against them seeking vain glory.

 1 Thessalonians 4:11:King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

The people against people cannot do that either.They are biting at the bit tyo disobey that piece of instruction too.

Mark 12:31:And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

War Lords against the zoosexual can't keep that verse because waring is not loving anyone.

There is a war is against the zoo.  The zoo wars against no one.  Sex is not perverted.  Look all of these verse up.  All of them are interconnected describing the character of Satan not sex  or nudity.•    Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire this means deviant does not mean sex or nudity either.. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.KJV.


kobidobidog
kobidobidog

I use it exactly the away KJV was meant to be used.  Here are a lot of verses saying words that are tossed like piercing bullets at the zoosexual, but all of them overlap with each other with one of two things.  The spilling of innnocent blood,  and what comes out of the mouth. Non of them are connected to any fvorm of sex. 

People would like the KJV to be a thermonuclear weapon. Sex is not in these verses. All of the verses describe the character of people against the zoo, Jam::1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.

 


kobidobidog
kobidobidog

see Jesus who does not war .You see a god of war. Satan is the god of war .The one who is warped acts like I will do worse to you than them religious sodomites.  Yes I said religious sodomites. .Do your research showing you are not lazy. reading Isaiah 1, KJV, religious  practices by the sodomites, and Gomorrahean's .  look up.KJV, Genesis 19:. 9, undeniably people want to do worse to the one who at the end of the day has sex. There is a war against all forms of sex.  Have a person to young to murder  in war see them, and it is worse.  Gods light will be good to those that are good shining from the city of God after the redeemed come back to earth in the new Jerusalem .Read about it if you dare in Revelation 20,  KJV.  wicked are consumed not writhing in flames around the city of God forever.  Religions you trust in are compulsive liars.

 The following verses condemns those that do not follow them. Are you willing to condemn yours-soul to eternal death ignoring those laws supporting evil antichrist laws against a person who has sex?

 Matthew 7:2:For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Romans 2:1: Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things
Romans 14:10;King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ
Condemn see Gods glory as Hell.
I am coming to you like Moses came to the Pharaoh.Another obvious one one among many is the religions insistence that circumcision is cutting flesh. You trust in truth hiders. How can you insist they are right to condemn the zoo?.
9 places in KJV says the heart figuratively is to be circumcised not the penis tip at all. Deuteronomy 30:6, Deuteronomy %s ;Jeremiah 4:4 , Jeremiah %s; Colossians %s-15;Acts %s;Leviticus %s;Romans %s, Romans 3, 30, Islamic religious parallels the deceptions of the west. Truth has been hidden in a shroud of darkness.

 You trust in warring Baalim, and Baal  god worshipers which means the devil is your guide going after the zoosexual

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog Why do people ignore what Jesus did and did not do? That was God with blood in him dude. Had he be here he would not be in a group of people with a stone in hand glaring at a victim. The zoo deserves to have their mark on the LGBT. They deserve to have their small z added to it.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog That is not wedlock you dolt. A person saw a man having sex kindly suggesting he get married. He proceeded to pay the Father a small sum of money sealing the deal. That is all. People today would call the police arresting him or worse.

vexx323
vexx323

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog


That is a part of Old Testament law, also known by all Jews as 'The Torah.' Given to Moses by God, the people were to follow this covenant until all prophecy had been fulfilled(Which Jesus did), successfully nullifying the 'Old Covenant,' as Christians call it. In the first books of the New Testament scripture, Jesus defines what rules Christians have to follow, otherwise known as the 'New Covenant.' "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength, and love your neighbor as yourself." Those are the two commandments that Jesus gave for us to follow. This in effect, completely nullifies the need for those who love God to follow the laws of the Torah. The book of Hebrews in the Bible solidifies this fact. Read it. 

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234@kobidobidog   I thought you knew that if you are without sin cast the first stone?  Sex in the beginning is marriage.  The hardness of mens hearts wanted the legal system.Jesus the fulfillment of Gods law stops violent acts. I God directs me to the part of the bible I should go. Sometimes it is investigating a word.  The people that go against God refusing to be like Jesus is will be punished. The people that punish now will be the people that will be-punished then. The people saying this sex is wrong or nudity is indecent or that o person is wrong jailing them act like the enemy of Jesus not considering their soul.  I am a defender of the Gay.  Sodomites are against them.  Sodomites want worse for others. They wanted to do worse to Lot. Sex in the beginning was two becoming one.  People clambered for legalized paper. Wisdom of men. I want to stop the hate which is murder. I want people to be peacefully minded like the Bonobo.The zoosexuals Pedo's gays, furries of the furry Fandom are peacefully minded like the Bonobo.I do not see them as sick at all.Mu y heart has been going out to them for a long time. Religion perverted minds for a long time. I have been countering  them with truth in their own book.

 One example.  It will take some time looking up the verses.  It will be clear that the words do not mean sex or nakedness like religions taught Hollywood to teach us, and the dictionary too.

 Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.


kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog Jesus fulfilled the law in his life.The law he fulfilled is love. Love forgives many times like 7x70. Love does not say arrest. Love does not say off with your head either.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog The covenant of God is the law I just typed being written on the heart. Romans 13:10.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
people want ill to be done to the people I defend. Therefore  breaking God's law.

KJV Pure cambridge edition bibles. Read the 1900.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog God's law, GOD'S law you want to talk about God's law? I will yell you what God's law is. You had better listen and consider what God's law says or be ashes under the feet of the righteous. You got me? James 3:17 - But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Luke 6:36 - Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
1 Peter 2:12 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
John 13:34 - :A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

1611 King James Version of Romans 13:10 - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@vexx323 @totalbetty1234

 The damn Quran is not holy. Nothing on earth is holy. God's holy light is fire to whatever dies. His spirit in the body to be like Jesus is is the only thing that will keep whoever from thinking they are looking at the sun shining unimpeded through the atmosphere when God shows up as he is. People must have Jesus in them now before they die or end up in Satan's prison to wait to be judged to become ashes in God's light.  Muslims are worshiping the one Devil who has nothing good to give lying about what Satan looks like. Allah who is Satan lies about everything in the Quran.  Satan is a bright fallen angel. There are no answers at all in the Muslims green book. Look at how the words are strung together. Muslims need to look narrowly upon the Quran. The God of life would never say what is in the Quran.
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4.
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them, Qur’an 8:12..
Page 595: #08.1When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasies from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
Look at the King James Bible. It gives instructions.
James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Luke 6:36
- Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
1 Peter 2:12
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
John 13:34
:A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

 
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