During his sophomore year in high school, Cody Beck finally got fed up with hearing homophobic cracks. If his classmates thought being gay was weird (Beck was openly bisexual), he had a confession that would blow their minds. He told them he is sexually attracted to dogs and horses.

"I just couldn't keep it in anymore," Beck says. "Just for the hell of it, I figured I'd throw it out there and have them make fun of me even more." Which they did. An 18-year-old from Arizona who graduated from high school this past year, Beck says classmates taunted him by calling him "Bestiality Dude."

Being a "zoophile" in modern American society, Beck says, is "like being gay in the 1950s. You feel like you have to hide, that if you say it out loud, people will look at you like a freak."

Cody Beck.
Photos Courtesy of Cody Beck
Cody Beck.
In a more  recent photo: "What's the point of living if we have to hide who we are?"
Photos Courtesy of Cody Beck
In a more recent photo: "What's the point of living if we have to hide who we are?"
Sen. Nan Rich plans to reintroduce a bill that would jail those who have sex with animals.
Courtesy of the Nan Rich Office
Sen. Nan Rich plans to reintroduce a bill that would jail those who have sex with animals.
Malcolm Brenner, photographed in the early 1970s with the dolphin he says was the love of his life.
Photos ©2009 Malcolm J. Brenner/Eyes Open Media
Malcolm Brenner, photographed in the early 1970s with the dolphin he says was the love of his life.
Photos ©2009 Malcolm J. Brenner/Eyes Open Media

Now Beck believes he and other members of this minority sexual orientation, who often call themselves "zoos," can follow the same path as the gay rights movement. Most researchers believe 2 to 8 percent of the population harbors forbidden desires toward animals, and Beck hopes this minority group can begin appealing to the open-minded for acceptance.

But if those like Beck are to make the same gains as gays, it's apparent they will have to do so without the help of gay rights groups, which so far want nothing to do with a zoophile movement. What's more, they will have to wage battle with well-funded and politically connected animal-protection activists.

And the most difficult task will be to take possession of their public image. In an internet age, zoophiles are more exposed than ever. Bestiality-themed websites are a Google search away. Hometown newspapers have learned that police reports of sex with animals become the best-read stories on their websites.

State lawmakers across the country have taken their cues by proposing anti-bestiality laws. In Florida, state Sen. Nan Rich of Sunrise proposed legislation earlier this year that would make bestiality a felony. Her bill was in response to news reports from January 2007, when a man from Mossy Point was suspected of sexually assaulting and strangling a female goat; he was arrested months later in the abduction of another goat. Rich's bill unanimously passed in the Florida Senate but died in the House, where conservative legislators might have been bashful about devoting time to a bill about sex with animals.

A similar bill was proposed this year in the Alaska Legislature, where it was known derisively as "The Ididadog." That bill failed for similar reasons — certainly not because of organized opposition. In Arizona, police arrested a Mesa deputy fire chief in 2006 for sex acts with his neighbor's lamb, which spurred state legislators to make such acts a felony. That same year, Washington state finally made bestiality illegal, inspired by a man in Enumclaw who was killed while having sex with a horse — a case that also prompted a bill last year by a Tennessee legislator. The past few weeks have brought perhaps the most famous animal sex case — a South Carolina man charged for the second time with committing buggery against the same horse.

Of course, the internet has a way of turning exposure to strength. It has allowed zoophiles from around the world to interact — not only to swap erotica but also to form a community and rehearse their arguments for the political stage. The internet also makes zoophiles accessible for the first time. They can be found in chatrooms, through websites that advocate their cause, and virtual-reality meetups.

As this group gains confidence, zoophiles figure to be more open and then more outspoken in their demands for personal liberty and against discrimination. Improbable as it may seem, zoophiles might yet prove the new frontier in the battle for sexual civil rights.


As cave drawings will attest, there's a carnal desire in some humans to lie with beasts. And though many civilizations have tried, none has been able to eradicate it, much to the frustration of organizations such as the Humane Society of the United States.

"A bazillion cultures worldwide have prohibited this behavior," sighs Bernard Unti, a spokesperson. Indeed, for committing this ultimate taboo, people have been jailed, tortured, and executed, but until the recent wave of legislation, Western culture has let humiliation and social ostracism act as the primary deterrents.

By introducing bills that bring more formal punishment, policymakers have triggered a debate they might not have anticipated: the question of whether bestiality belongs with pedophilia as they assume or whether some acts of humans having sex with animals are victimless.

The Humane Society is preparing for that battle. "We have tried to reclassify 'bestiality' with 'animal sex abuse,' " Unti says. He's heard zoophiles compare themselves to gays who lived in a close-minded culture not long ago, but Unti says that argument ignores the role of human over animal. "The example of homosexuality may offer some comfort to such persons, but [human-animal relationships] are fundamentally unequal relationships... more akin to taking advantage of minor boys or girls." In Unti's estimation, animals — like children — are not equipped with a brain that can withstand the coercion of a human adult. He claims there's a "complex correlation" linking people who have sex with animals and those who commit violent acts against people. Asked for the scientific literature that supports such a link, Unti cites research that treats all sex with animals as a violent act, which will necessarily come out hostile toward zoophiles.

Piers Beirne, a criminologist with the University of South Maine and author of the recently published book Confronting Animal Abuse, deals with the moral questions. He says that because bestiality always occurs with domesticated animals, there's an imbalance of power. Those animals are "completely dependent on us for food, for water, for shelter, and affection," Beirne says from his office in Portland, Maine. "I think it's morally wrong for a human to have sex with nonhuman animals for exactly the same reasons it's wrong for him to have sex with human babies or adolescents."

Senator Rich's press secretary, when asked to supply the scientific evidence backing her claims in the media about the connections between sex with animals and pedophilia, furnished a list of researchers, including Christopher Hensley, a professor at the University of Tennessee-Chattanooga.

But like those cited by Unti, Hensley's studies treat all human sex with animals as rape, based on the assumption that an animal cannot consent. Bestiality was the "strongest variable," he says, when it came to predicting violent criminal behavior.

However, his study was confined to prison inmates — an unusually violent demographic.

Hensley says his studies and analysis of past research leads him to believe the "graduation hypothesis." He believes "children who engage in animal cruelty graduate to humans as they get older." Hensley adds, "You see that in serial killers."

He agrees with Rich that there ought to be tougher laws against people who commit bestiality. But he suggests that waiting for the culprit to turn 18 is unwise. A budding sociopath, says Hensley, might be identified earlier. "When a child engages in animal cruelty, that serves as a red flag to the law enforcement community that there's a problem with that child and he needs some psychological help."

Of course, Hensley's ideas begin with the belief that bestiality equals animal cruelty — a premise no zoophile would accept. They describe sex that does not resemble descriptions of how serial killers raped and tortured animals. Their assertion makes it not an issue of cruelty but of morality.

Asked in March if this was a moral issue, Rich said her motivation was the desire "to protect anybody who would be victimized by sexually deviant crimes."

Having written her bill without consulting zoophiles, Rich might have been surprised to learn they too would have condemned the rape and strangulation death of the Panhandle goat that was the source of her bill. Zoophiles would have asked her to draft the bill to differentiate between those who rape animals and those who consider sex with them consensual.

But when asked whether the bill had opponents, it became clear that, to Rich, this was a question with a morally obvious answer. "How would anybody voice objection?" she asked incredulously. "Who thinks it's OK to have sex with animals?"


In fairness to Rich and to researchers who back her bill, it can be difficult to find zoophiles — it seems they prefer to find you. In March, after publishing a blog post that questioned whether bestiality was really linked with rape and child molestation, as Rich claimed in public remarks, I began an email correspondence with a zoophile who had found the article online. He soon decided I was open-minded enough to discuss the subject, but he insisted on some unusual conditions to protect his anonymity.

James (not his real name) was wary of a prosecutor's subpoena for New Times phone records. So he insisted we talk only through secondlife.com, an online role-playing game. Having created an avatar, I was asked to go to an uninhabited island where we could talk without bumping into others. James had a wolf's head and a big bushy tail, but he walked upright and wore a man's clothing. Speaking through microphones on our computers, he told me he was a middle-aged white man from the "upper Midwest."

I asked him when he had his first inkling of being a zoophile. "When you're a kid, you're not really aware of too much sexually," he says. "But I was always interested in animals, starting around age 10. It was an extension of my affection for the dog and of my discovery of sex. He's a male. I'm a male. I wanted to make him feel good."

His attraction to dogs in general — and Siberian huskies in particular — became stronger in his teens and stronger yet in his 20s. "For years, I thought I was the only one who did this," James says. "I felt like there was no one I could talk to about this. I definitely knew I wasn't going to be talking to my parents or my friends about this."

Not until he came across pornography from Denmark that showed a dog and a horse with three women did he realize he wasn't alone in his desires. Still, as he explored the pornographic world of bestiality, he recognized a difference between himself and a group that seemed bored with human sex and for whom animals were a thrilling way to spice things up. "This is not a fetish," James says of his attractions. "It's an orientation, a lifestyle."

Even if he had wanted to adopt more conventional tastes, James couldn't have. "The human body turns me off — women wear perfumes; guys sweat. It irks me. You can show me pictures of nude models and it doesn't turn me on. I think the human body is kind of stupid. A big-horned sheep, certain breeds of dogs, are much more physically attractive to me than a woman with big breasts or a man with a big penis."

James suggested I speak with his friend, a 44-year-old man from the western United States who also asked to speak under a pseudonym. Ron, as we'll call him, uses an internet connection and email that make it nearly impossible to track his IP address. Our interview occurred through Yahoo Messenger. Ron tells of a fantasy about horses when he was teenager, but acting it out seemed impossible to him. It remained that way through his teens and almost his 20s, "until the day I found by accident a porn site with pictures of men and women having intimacy with horses," Ron says. "I realized that it was possible, and I have not looked back since."

In fact, he has an attraction to several animals — among them: dogs, horses, and goats. Raised a Southern Baptist, Ron says his first struggle was with bisexuality and that after some soul-searching, he ultimately decided that "God is more concerned with how we treat others than what sex we have."

Both Ron and James interact with fellow zoophiles through websites, and neither has found patterns that typify the discovery of one's attractions nor commonalities in background or life experiences. James rattles off a long list of zoophiles he's known who occupy different demographic categories: "white, black, Asian, Mormon, Amish, Catholic, atheist, pagan, Jewish, male and female, and two who are legally blind."

Among the seven zoophiles I consulted for this article, all say that theirs is an orientation and that to meet the definition, one must not harm an animal. For this reason, a man who has sex with chickens, for instance, is not a zoophile because the act is sure to hurt if not kill the chicken. Zoophiles I spoke with say they are as opposed to forcing sex upon animals as the rest of society is opposed to the rape of humans.

In fact, a zoophile from Southwest Florida named Malcolm Brenner wrote Senator Rich a letter voicing support for the principles of her bill — if not for the assumptions that underlie it. "I said I agreed with her trying to prevent animal abuse, but I tried to point out that what gets reported in the news is not zoophilia," Brenner says. "These are instances of bestiality that have injured the animal."

Brenner, a 58-year-old freelance writer, says he hopes to publish a novel he's chipped away at for 30 years titled Wet Goddess: Recollections of a Dolphin Lover. It's the fictionalized account of a love affair he had with a dolphin, named Ruby in the novel.

Around age 11, Brenner began to experience urges he knows now as "mixoscopic zoophilia" — the term for watching two animals have sex. Except in Brenner's fantasy, he says, "I was one of animals who were mating."

Though Brenner wasn't raised in a religious family, he knew he was exploring attractions forbidden by society. "I had a relationship with my family's dog, and I felt very ashamed about that. I hadn't developed an attraction toward women."

He tried, though. And Brenner says he almost convinced himself, except for the persistence of the dolphin. He met her in the '70s, as a teenager, while photographing dolphins in an amusement park called Floridaland, in Osprey. The photos were to be illustrated in a book by a family friend.

"The dolphin developed an attraction toward me," Brenner says. "And she had to work very hard to get me to respond to what she wanted."

It was a rough courtship. "When you're in the water with a dolphin, you do whatever they want you to," Brenner says. In this dolphin's case, he adds, "If you don't do what they want, they'll push you to the bottom of a 12-foot pool."

When that didn't work, Brenner says, the dolphin tried a gentler, subtler seduction. "She would take my leg very lightly in her jaws and run her teeth up and down my leg," he says. "It's an incredible sensation. I don't know if other people would find it erotic, but I certainly did."

That method overcame Brenner's resistance. He consummated his flirtations with the dolphin. "It was the most intense experience I've ever had," he says. "A transcendental experience. I felt I was completely wrapped up."

The power of it scared him, though. He didn't want to develop an attachment to her, not just because of their difference in species but because they were going in different directions: The dolphin's amusement park had closed, and she'd been sold to one in Gulfport, Mississippi; Brenner was attending school that fall in Olympia, Washington. "I felt bad about leaving her," he says of Ruby. "But quite frankly, I was weirded out. I felt I needed to get in a relationship with a woman."

When he returned a year later, he asked a friend how Ruby was doing. The friend casually mentioned the dolphin had died, probably from the stress of moving from her former park to the new one in Mississippi. The news threw Brenner into a depression that lasted five years. Ruby, he's certain, was the love of his life.

In the years since, it has been a battle between Brenner's attraction for animals and his desire to be normal. He was married to his first wife for 12 years, to his second for six. Through it all, he says, "Zoophilia was my fantasy life. Some would make love to their wife and imagine Angelina Jolie. I fantasized I was a wolf having sex with another wolf."


In the mid-'90s, Hani Miletski decided to devote her doctoral dissertation to zoophilia and bestiality. She was a student at the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco, and Miletski was drawn to the subject not only because it seemed bizarre and fascinating but also because it had received scant attention from researchers. In particular, she noticed researchers had not accounted for the motives behind having sex with animals. Surely there's some common experience, something more reliable than the genetic lottery to explain how some people such as the ones above become attracted to animals. So she set out to find these motives.

Miletski tried several strategies, but the one that worked best was an ad for volunteers she placed in her local alternative weekly newspaper, the Baltimore City Paper. The first zoophile who contacted her told a zoophile friend. Soon they arranged for Miletski to meet the international "zoo" community that had already formed within a still-blossoming technology, the internet. Miletski had hoped to find a few zoophiles to speak openly about their attractions and conduct a case study. She was astonished to learn how many zoophiles there were and that they were so eager to have their mysterious, forbidden sexual proclivities given a scientific study. In all, she had 160 volunteers and accepted 93 — of whom 82 were men — into her study.

The study was more notable for what it did not find. The zoophiles had no similar childhood experience. Those who grew up in the country around animals were no more likely to become zoophiles than those who grew up in the city without them. They cut across race, geography, religion, and profession. "I could not find anything that says, 'All zoos are this way or that way,' " Miletski says. Having been unable to locate clues suggesting some other motive, Miletski concluded the single explanation for the behavior was the conscious one that zoophiles offered: It was an orientation they were born with.

"They really loved their animals," she said of the research subjects. "To the point that some want to marry them and treat them as spouses."

Miletski's findings not only formed her dissertation but also turned into a book, Understanding Bestiality and Zoophilia, which remains the most authoritative modern text on zoophilia.

When told of Senator Rich's remarks about people who commit bestiality being a threat to children, Miletski says, "I think it's real bullshit for people to say that. There's no connection that we know of. If you said that to zoos, they would be so offended." That's because Miletski says nearly all the zoophiles she interviewed expressed moral revulsion for sex with animals that had not fully matured. In this respect, she says, they recognize the same values that underlie laws against statutory rape.

Miletski and a researcher based in Germany, Andrea Beetz, who conducted a similarly large study, argue that zoophiles are distinguished by their emotional relationship to the animals they love. Because they care for them, they would never consciously inflict pain upon them, even for their own pleasure. A minority of them, Miletski allowed, treat their animals as a "masturbation machine" — but she says that for these zoos, it's the same as casual sex between humans.

Based on her interviews with zoos, Miletski suspects that animals consent to sex with human partners. But she concedes there is no sure way to know.

Ron, the zoophile from the western United States, points out that critics of his sexual practices "can't agree if animals are sentient or are dumb. They can't be both. If [animals] are sentient, [critics] would have to admit that animals can decide for themselves if they want intimacy when and where they choose." Ron believes this to be the case, as do the other zoos interviewed for this article. If animals are not sentient, he continues, "they don't know the difference, and what is it hurting?"

Zoophiles say they act upon the same nonverbal cues for sex as humans do. Brenner, the zoophile from Southwest Florida, asserts that humans having sex are acting on their own animal instincts. And if so, it's silly to deprive another animal of those instincts on the grounds that the animal has a less developed brain.

James, the zoophile I met on Second Life, puts it in even more vivid terms, asking whether he deserves to be imprisoned for raping an animal when he's merely allowing his Rottweiler to mount him.

As upsetting as the comparison of zoophilia to pedophilia is to James, it's evident he's tried to understand those who make it. "When you look at people's relationships to pets in society, they consider pets to be their child," he says. "They'll baby their dog or cat, dote on it, but I think it's blinding them to reality because an animal is not a child with fur. People turn a blind eye to the fact that a dog is a sexual being."


It was one of the most politically explosive quotes of 2003. Then-Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum told a reporter for the Associated Press: "In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be."

Instantly, gay rights activists recognized an attempt by one of the Senate's most conservative Republicans to define their partnerships as a perversion. They mobilized, denouncing Santorum with such force that it brought national attention to a U.S. Senate race in which Santorum was a heavy favorite but lost.

Cody Beck, the Arizona zoophile who came out to his friends, was 12 then and had only just come to realize he was a zoophile. In the years since, he's been thrilled by how activists' efforts have broadened minds about what qualifies as moral, socially acceptable sex. He recognizes the exciting implications it might have for zoophiles like him. But he's crushed by the gay rights movement's rejection of zoophilia as a similarly legitimate orientation.

"I really want to help that movement," Beck says. "But it really makes me feel like if gay people can't accept this, then I'll have to live my whole life having these feelings of alienation."

Rich Ferraro, a national spokesman for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation in New York City, told me that he had never heard of zoophilia. When I explained it to him and explained how zoophiles hope to find an open-minded ally in the gay rights movement, Ferraro said, "That's very far from our mission." He refused to elaborate.

Brian Winfield, a spokesman for Equality Florida, a statewide leader for GLBT rights, was also unfamiliar with zoophilia. He asked for time to huddle with agency leaders before commenting on zoophiles' interest in political alliance. Last week, he told me: "We believe that most people are capable of distinguishing between committed relationships between consenting adults and forcibly having sex with animals. It's just not at all an appropriate analogy."

It's hard to blame leaders of the gay rights movement for wanting to distance themselves from zoophiles. After all, the movement's mission is incomplete, as evidenced by the passage of gay-marriage bans in Florida and California last November. And the addition of bestiality into the argument for equality might create a backlash similar to what Santorum predicted — that government shouldn't expand gay rights because then it would have to do the same for zoophiles.

"It's true in a warped sort of way," Beck admits. "But that's a good thing, not a bad thing."

The first zoophile rights group, called Equality for All, has roots in Europe and formed in the '90s. It was the subject of a 2006 documentary film called Coming Soon, but in recent years, it has gone underground, apparently based on EFA founders' fears they would be arrested. Today the group exists primarily as a website, equalityforall.net. Its webmaster spoke with me on the condition of anonymity.

The EFA webmaster, who wouldn't give his name, says he lives in the Czech Republic and he's in his 20s. In its current condition, with members wary of prosecution, the group can perform little political activism aside from sending email blasts to inform its international membership about legislation that lumps together zoophiles with sadistic forms of bestiality. EFA sent out a notice about Rich's proposed legislation in Florida, for instance. But as that bill's fate was being discussed, the group's online petition had only about 30 signatures.

For those same reasons, there isn't an EFA "platform" other than a requirement that members vow not to cause their animals pain. Asked about the group's reception in the gay community, the EFA webmaster says opinions are split. On the subject of zoophile rights alone, he says, "Some gays resent it because they feel it contributes to the insane 'slippery slope' argument and may interfere with their own efforts." But he notes that those who saw the documentary "see us all in the same boat" and acknowledge a slippery slope that goes in the other direction: "If you allow zoos to be persecuted, who next? Gays?"

Before zoophiles can gain momentum, however, they'll need to close ranks among their own kind. Ron, for instance, says zoos will never gain social acceptance. By asking for it, they're tempting an even more powerful backlash. James isn't quite that pessimistic, but he resents young zoos who clamor for rights. They lack the patience and temperament, he says, to effect social progress.

Beck believes these are expressions of fear that are natural in the early moments of revolution. "That's the story throughout history," he says. "People don't want to stand up for anything, because they don't want to get hurt." He draws some of his own strength from the recent movie Milk, in which Sean Penn plays the nation's first openly gay elected official, San Francisco City Supervisor Harvey Milk. "If we all stand up at once, we'll share the load. What's the point of living if we have to hide who we are?"

Beck will start college in the fall and hopes to become a history teacher. I asked him whether he was sure he was comfortable with my using his real name in this article. "I have the privilege of being one of the only persons to stand up," he says. "That gives me pride."

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Zeta
Zeta

Very, very interesting article. I was highly impressed by the content and the sheer length and depth of it. 

It's a shame I'm five years late, but still very glad I read it. I had no idea all of this happened.


I have enormous respect for this Cody Beck guy, what a hero.

kevinstanleyestrada
kevinstanleyestrada

The Bible prohibits bestiality. "Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."- Leviticus 18:23 (KJV). Those who practice bestiality are cursed. "Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen."- Deuteronomy 27:21 (KJV). Back in Old Testament times, whoever committed bestiality were killed and also the animals.

"Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."- Exodus 22:19 (KJV), & "15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. 16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."- Leviticus 20:15-16 (KJV). These laws are no longer enforced.


The_Captain
The_Captain

I am sorry but homosexuality is no more on the same level as bestiality anymore than eating chicken being on the same table as cannibalism. What goes on between two consenting adults is one thing, but an animal that cannot give its consent is completely different.  They seem to labor under the false dichotomy of "if it feels good then it must be ok."  But clearly we could draw analogies that blow that concept apart.  These "zoophiles" need deep deep psychological help.  From what we know of nature animals don't even mate for pleasure other than the dolphin.  They mate because of instinct and a need to reproduce.  So their sexual desire is one sided.  Those animals have no concept of morality.  They ARE ANIMALS!!!  All they know is something is trying to mate with them so their instinct says to go along with it.  But the big question I would ask is..when does it end?  When do you get to the point of "You know even though I am sexually attracted to (insert here) that might be immoral and dangerous and illegal and maybe even..oh I don't know...SICK"?  I am sorry if they are attracted to animals and they feel that have to hide, but what they need to do is seek professional help and understand that just because you feel something doesn't always mean its right.  What happens when you find yourself attracted to a corpse or a child or some other being that cannot give you a proper consent because they are UNABLE to due to the fact they cannot speak because they are dead, or not human, or too young to even understand what the HELL you are talking about.

cowboys2568
cowboys2568

I do not understand how having sex with an animal is cruel to that animal.  After all that is one of their basic and primal instincts.  I wholeheartedly do not believe in animal cruelty.  But you will never make me believe that sex with an animal is cruel to that animal.  It is definitely different in our society, but cruel?  How would you like it if someone said that you could not have sex with a partner?  Not fun, right?  Think about it.

acasinofriend
acasinofriend

Ever Tried It With A NonConsenting Animal....  RIGHT....  It Would HURT....  Marry Their Gay Dog....  They Are Civil Righted....

Scott823
Scott823

Please call the school and stand against this sick perverted stuff being taught in high-schools: 

(480) 575-2400


Rebel
Rebel

I don't think beastiality is anything like homosexuality. Homosexuality is between two consenting adults. A man can deny the amorous advances of another man. Just the same with polygamy/polyamory, consenting adults can decide if they want to be in marriage with multiple people. But animals don't have the capacity to resist sexual encounters and can't process what it is that is happening to them just like a child can't. I think beastiality and pedophilia should be viewed as the exact same thing: a demented individual forcing themselves on someone innocent and helpless for their own pleasure. Zoophiles, pedophiles, and rapists should all fry in an electric chair. Why are so many of them still out on the streets?

gaynorhenry
gaynorhenry

If two adult people wish to have sex with each other - gay, straight, bisexual, lesbian, swingers, whatever - I could not give a rats behind but when you are talking about having sex with childrenor animals (who in many respects are like children), then there is something wrong with you. Like sex with children the physical and psychological damage done to an animal is incalculable. These sick bastards should be forced to undergo chemical castration so they have no desires - period! 

roxannafuller
roxannafuller

This is nothing but rape of poor animal's that can not protect themselves. An unGodly act. If they do not repent and seek the creator, they will bust Hell wide open. Plain and simple.

eutawangel
eutawangel

Another example of someone depraved & given over to it vs. hearing the inner voice that said from the beginning this is wrong.  Many folks in the place Cody is headed whom would welcome another chance to repent.  SIck & sad...

adamreed1
adamreed1

The ownley thing makes us different from all of the dumb ignorant rapeist and those child molesters is that we have a highly clear congence and from my experience I can say this a animals mind is far more superior then the humans mantality for example you humans think of them as pets and food and a companion but put your self in their paws hoofs or fangs how do you think the animal kingdom see us as the same way we looked at them pets food and companions and the Bible says thy shall not lay with a beast for he or she is unclean and most people thougtht it ment animals and that's not what it ment that verse means we shall not lay with rapeist and child molestersfor that are the uncleanist

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Police are sodomites. Why do they want to act like sodomites outside the door of Lots house? The people not receiving the things of God will war seeking a sacrifice against whoever. They are carnally minded.The carnal minded person is against the zoo, pedo, gay, nudist, furry and their nude and sexual art. Carnally minded people are for a military that destroys or jails that give nothing that is good.  Carnally minded people are against them giving fear of engaging in sex etc. God had sex with Mary when she was younger than 13. Devils will see that as an opportunity to attack God like a predictable pharisee or whatever religious person spotted by the word. Stop condemning or be by Gods glory condemned. I keep telling people this. Seekers  of a sacrifice need  to see this turning away from seeking a sacrifice.  People being jailed, tortured, and executed are being treated just like Jesus was treated. Religious people wanted that for Jesus. World,... wake up. Those that wake up will not be in Gog and Magog not adding to the lake of fire kindled by Gods glory. God the judge of all deciding who is worthy to be in his Kingdom. Why condemn yourselves attempting to take Gods place? Satan wants to do that. All of us are animals.  All of us have sex. Humane Society one of the institutions at war against life being an altering machine acting like they care.

Unequal relationships - UNEQUAL RELATIONSHIPS? I will shoot that down. What do you think no preeminence means folks? Read Ecclesiastes 3:18:20 KJV. The violent people are against the zoo. I have seen transformation after transformation. You had better call all sex violent then you beast, mammal, vertebrate, fleshy mammalian animal.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Police are sodomites. Why do they want to act like sodomites outside the door of Lots house? The people not receiving the things of God will war seeking a sacrifice against whoever. They are carnally minded.The carnal minded person is against the zoo, pedo, gay, nudist, furry and their nude and sexual art. Carnally minded people are for a military that destroys or jails that give nothing that is good.  Carnally minded people are against them giving fear of engaging in sex etc. God had sex with Mary when she was younger than 13. Devils will see that as an opportunity to attack God like a predictable pharisee or whatever religious person spotted by the word. Stop condemning or be by Gods glory condemned. I keep telling people this. Seekers  of a sacrifice need  to see this turning away from seeking a sacrifice.  People being jailed, tortured, and executed are being treated just like Jesus was treated. Religious people wanted that for jests. World,... wake up. Those that wake up will not be in Gog and Magog not adding to the lake of fire kindled by Gods glory. God the judge of all deciding who is worthy to be in his Kingdom. Why condemn yourselves attempting to take Gods place. Satan wants to do that. All of us are animals.  All of us have sex. Humane Society one of the institutions at war against life being an altering machine acting like they care.

Unequal relationships - UNEQUAL RELATIONSHIPS? I will shoot that down. What do you think no preeminence means folks? Read Ecclesiastes 3:18:20 KJV. The violent people are against the zoo. I have seen transformation after transformation. You had better call all sex violent then you beast, mammal, vertebrate, fleshy mammalian animal.

Kronos7
Kronos7

You're all a bunch of sickassed mutha fukkers on here.

rfwisthehegemon
rfwisthehegemon

I AM A ZOO TOO, I CAME PUBLIC WHEN I WAS DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN IN 2007, AND NO ONE IN MY PLATOON CARED, LOL INFACT IT WAS REALY LOOKED UPON LIKE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS AFTER COMBAT. LOL

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

The fact of the matter is bestiality zoosexuality is a sexual activity even by the name.  When heterosexuals are not arrested when  seen having whoopee publicly, and when age limits for seeing nude, and sexual art is lifted with age restrictions on seeing natural nude, and sexual art the zoosexual will know true freedom.  Jesus  frees people working through people.

bulldozerbegins
bulldozerbegins

They mocked those of use who warned of a slippery slope.  Now, pedophilia is everywhere.  And the majority of new cases that make the news are gay pedophiles.  Now, those who want to defile animals, complete with the mental gymnastics they must perform to justify it, have the nerve to say they're entitled to enjoy the same success as Crookeds.  


We don't need they-who-should-be-destroyed-along-with-the-animal.  We need to return to a time when it was shameful to live together with a straight partner outside of marriage.  Or we will destroy ourselves as a society.  


Part of divine judgement is "giving them over to a reprobate mind."  Keep saying you want this, you'll get it.  And everything that goes with it.

totalbetty1234
totalbetty1234

I was just reading through the comments here and i have to say. I am someone who is truly open minded and i accept all. If you are sexual attracted to dogs then i think that's fine who is anyone to tell you what you can and cant like. I don't like sex of any kind and people look at me like i'm weird because i don't get sexual urges. You be who you want to be don't let anyone tell you its wrong. One thing that is wrong though is comparing bestiality to homosexuality. Its wrong because its implying that gays and animals are on the same level of respect and deserve the same rights. A homosexual is a person who can walk talk and speak their mind. A animal has most of these traits but cannot clearly communicate with humans so it is not a citizen it deserves no rights. There should always be a separation between things like sexual preferences and religion that's just like when the Mormons didn't want the Polygamist to call themselves Mormon Polygamist. When you take something and change certain things about it it becomes new like taking sex and then adding a person or a gender or an animal all different names each only related by one thing and that is the intercourse part. If people want equality then start your own movement don't try to horn in on the gay rights movement when they fought all these years ALONE to have the same rights as others. Put in your own work in this day and age anything is possible to achieve as long as you work toward it. 

Ending Thoughts For Everyone: 

"Many people use the "consent" issue against sex with animals (zoosexuality). However, did a cow consent to be turned into meat for a hamburger? Do dogs consent to be put in kennels? Do animals consent to be tested on in laboratories? Do animals consent to be neutered? NO."

rosannarmiller
rosannarmiller

@The_Captain Isn't that a little judgmental on your part? You believe that both parties simply need to consent but they don't believe in your god or care what you have to say. Homosexuals also labor under the same dichotomy, if it feels good, let's do it. How in the world is psychological going to help them? They were born that way, just like you. It never ends. The possibilities that homosexuals have opened the door and are opening the door for is endless. 


I think it is so ironic, I have heard people say the same thing to homosexuals,
"I am sorry if they are attracted to the same sex and they feel that have to hide, but what they need to do is seek professional help and understand that just because you feel something doesn't always mean its right.

Oh, wait and see, it gets better! Not.

jessicaneema
jessicaneema

@The_Captain hate to break it to u but animals can give consent. I know aluzky online has consensual sex with his dog, he knows when the dog wants to be petted or when he wants sex. so ur talk is basic ignorance. or u need deeep deep psychological help that u deny the rights of someone with a sexual orientation, dont be a hypocrite, if gays can get married without the consent of the hetero community, then why cant a man have sex with a dog. how does it effect u? i mean if the dog was out on the treets getting homo raped by another dog, then u wouldnt mind, right? bec the homo rape gives credence to why gays should have rights? hahaha. then explain why there are homo dogs, i think even dogs can tell when an action doesnt result in reproduction. Humans are animals and since the main basis of gays is..well, gays exsist in the animal kingdom, also inter species rape exsists too, try two dogs raping a cat on utuube and see that ur a bigoted hypocrite. maybe they need to seek about as much professional help as gays. tell me which cure has assisted for gays and apply that to zoosexuals, it will work right? oh, i support corpse sex to, bec as my right to define marriage as man and woman has been overturned so has ur right to define ur dead body as sacred is overturned bec it interfers with the rights of necrophiles, an alternate SEXUAL ORIENTATION. and child rape will never be legal cause it hurts the kid, a corpse cant be hurt nor give a rape case, idiot, start being more open minded, ur gay friends wont like u if ur bigoted.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@The_Captain Jesus in a human will not crucify another human being. People want to crucify a person based on a sexuality name whatever that name is. Satan in a person seeks to crucify another.1Corintians :2: 6Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

.http://www.christianbook.com/kjv-bonded-leather-black-large-print/9781936428151/pd/428153.

jessicaneem
jessicaneem

@Rebel oh right, and thats why when some animals are petted against their will, they slash their claws and try to bite him. people have died trying to have relations with animals. dont mix children and animals, makes u an idiot. no, homosexuality, beastality and pedophilia are the same thing, all sexual orientatiosns and ur speech maks u a bigoted asshole. ur a demented individual and a hypocritical bigot who forced his views on others.  all homo lovers should fry in the electic chair, that way pedos, necros and zoos will never get rights based on their sexual orientation.

roxannafuller
roxannafuller

For humans were created in Gods own image. People that do this need Christian counseling. I didn't say anything about religion. Being a true Christian is having a true relationship with God. Hell is real people. I pray Jesus will return soon. This world has gone crazy.

kevinstanleyestrada
kevinstanleyestrada

@kobidobidog  kobidobidog, stop using the Bible to justify homosexuality, bestiality, and other forms of sexual sins. The Bible clearly prohibits homosexuality and bestiality. "22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."- Leviticus 18:22-23 (KJV). If you are not saved, I highly recommend that you repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your own personal Lord and Saviour. Good bye, take care, and God bless you kobidobidog.

Folly
Folly

@kobidobidog You are disgusting. Your writing is nearly unintelligible, and you are verifiably insane. Carnally minded people think about sex, their own pride, etc. all the time. Carnal people do not fear perversion, they ARE PERVERSION. People who struggle to be upright and to rise above their darker nature fear perversion. You are not upright.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@Kronos7 Jesus came to set people free .Jesus did not come with  jails to put people into them. Jesus came to set people free. Set the  zoo free. When people submit to the Lord in me people become peacful. Devils hate belong peacful.

jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog I am sorry but you are proof that the slippy slope argument is not a joke. Opening Pandora's box was a mistake. Your comment takes an experiential approach to morality. It exists therefor it must be moral. This is idiotic as it would take me two seconds to list so many things that are universally abhorred as unanimously unaccepted evil. Adding Jesus at the end of it was an empty gesture after examining that context.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@bulldozerbegins The reprobate mind is a malicious murdring mind that is implacable without any love or no natural affection.That is what is against the zoosexual. people need to follow this.people against the zoosexual do not follow this.. James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

People against the zoo destroy  them with a lot more than their mouth.
Luke 6:36 - Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

People against the zoo don't know what mercy is.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Love is good. Give it to the zoo.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

People against the zoo do not seek peace no way no how. How are the people against the zoo blessed?
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

Peple never think about that. People attack anyone like the sodomites wanting to do ill to Lot outside his house.
1 Peter 2:12 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Be ye kind to the zoosexual.
John 13:34
:A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Love the zoosexual. God has spoken.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

Based on Romans 1: 20, KJV, people against the zoosexual are in their minds malicious wanting to kill being in their heats being murderers. They hate having no natural affection, meaning, having no love. People against the zoo are full of debate, and implacable haters of God hating everyone full of deceit, and envy. They are boasters wanting to say AH - HA I caught you. They are unmerciful whisperers. They are without understanding inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, and covenant breakers, back bitters, despiteful full of all uprightness knowing the Judgment of God that they that commit such things continue to condemn people ending up condemning themselves having pleasure in condemning themselves.  Those people are against the one who has sex with another species. The people that have sex with another species are being falsely accused.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

A reprobate mind will war calling it very good.even as you in your mind are warring.  Gods judgment is is light -  his glory that will be like a consuming fire to evil.  The devils in you know that is true.

Sex before the law of man was marriage. Two becoming one.  The  non human animals have perfect love in them being like Jesus is.  That is what  angers the devil in people calling them to war.  The person called the Pedo is treated the same way Jesus was treated.  The dog  does not condemn themselves judging themselves.  The dog will get to heaven before the condemner.  The condemner will walk up to the gates of heaven never being able to enter because the light of God will be a consuming fire.  You are the way you are because religions lied about what hell is, and about what God hated.

 Lets look at Gods word. HMmmmmmno no  mention of any eexual activity with another species as being  abominable.

KJV, Pro; 6;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren,

I can go on, and on like this with the word perverted, defiled, and naughty too. The devil is described by those words not sex of any kind.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 Homosexuality, zoosexuality and heterosexuality engages in one named activity. Can you tell me what that activity name is? 

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 We eat, drink, poop, piss, eukaryote cells, physiologically, biologically, scientifically, chemically, microscopically, fight flight, territorial instincts of an animal putting up fences, no trespass signs. KJV, Ecc 3;18-20. Argument against the zoo have holes big enough to drive a galaxy thorough. The non human animal has perfect love not giving guilty not condemning not accusing anyone about anything. 

Religion is against the gay zoosexual,and Jesus too. 

Mark 14:1-9, the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death, John 12;10 the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death.
John 11:50  53Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. People want to arrest,and kill the zoo, People wanted to arrest, and kill Jesus. can't you see a parallel here?

You are right about the  consent issue .  People that yell consent must believe  that body language must not exist.


landingnlondon
landingnlondon

@jessicaneema   You are totally messed up if you think that dog is giving consent not to mention what it is doing to the animal internally. My female cat sticks her butt up when she is in heat but I can promise you she doesn't want a human screwing her! You sickening little twit!

rosannarmiller
rosannarmiller

@jessicaneema "......and child rape will never be legal"....you have no clue. Have you heard of nambla.org? They are pushing for it. Don't think it will never be because I am sure that no one ever thought slaughtering people based on their belief in God would be legal but it was. And get enough of them in congress.....yeah. As a matter of fact, it is legal in other countries, why do you think it couldn't happen here?

I hope and pray that I nor anyone in the future sees that day!

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog Morality is being like Jesus is. Jesus is our example but people seem to think that Jesus taught us to to
think,..Hmmmm Let me think,...... who can I arrest today?  There must
be something.   OH yea,.... I know I will make a law and say it is an
arrestable offensive,... yea that's it.  Jesus did not do that, correct? That is what people do,  correct?Did you read anything I wrote?Condemning is satanic. God abhors condemners.  Why do you think the KJV says do not condemn, for the fun of it? Legal system,military, and police that Kill are to God abominable abhorring that. Persecutors are abhorred by God too.
KJV, Pro; 6;16 says what God hates nothing about any form of sex, but the character of people against the zoo is included in what God hates in KJV, Pro; 6;16.  Are you blind?.Your body is evil walking on life  killing life and eating life to live.  The body that dies sees Gods glory as hell. Aparently morrality to you is make a person less that you to make you feel justified to kill people like religions people wanting  bad to happen to Jesus thinking they were crafty to have him stoned or  pushed off a cliff or trying to trap him to say AH - Ha  or mocked him or spit upon him, and scourged, and ridiculed him, and pierce him with a spear having thorns on his head.  That is your mortality.  The morrality the devil would like.

bulldozerbegins
bulldozerbegins

@kobidobidog You are truly warped.  You're the one starting a debate with me.  And to use something in a way it was never meant to be used is not love.

And to say judgment is light when grace is exhausted?  Blasphemy.


I see you make a habit of waking up in the morning, pondering: "Gee...how can I twist scripture today?"  You are an illustration of the very mental gymnastics I was talking about.

totalbetty1234
totalbetty1234

@kobidobidog @totalbetty1234 

The bible also says that if a woman gets pregnant out of wedlock that she should be taken to her fathers house and stoned. Since this is obviously barbaric who would actually consider doing it nowadays. the bible was written long ago in a different time era so before anyone goes preaching about how it is unnatural and against god why do you read through the bible a couple times there are many things people do in this life time that is against god you don't see those people being punished and told that who they are is wrong and attack for it. I say if you are going to mentally or physically attack a gay make sure you stone your mother aunt grandmother or sister first because i am 99% positive someone in your family had a child before marriage. It is time to stop the hate and violence and accept new things. Just to make things clear though sexual preference is sexual preference just like you can't stop yourself from finding men/ women attractive its the same ways for homesexuals, zoosexuals, pansexuals, and pedophiles. No one chooses to be attracted to something it just sort of happens. Even if it isn't right or people consider it sick most people can't help themselves.

jessicaneem
jessicaneem

@landingnlondon @jessicaneema ur totally messed up if u think two men and two women deserve marriage rights or can parent  a child better than normal parents. yeah, i cant imagine what animals go through when they are netuered, forced to live outside among trash cans and raped by other animals, or forced to be put down bec some owners can't take responsibility.  how do u know? have u tried fingering her, have u made any attempt to satisfy her needs. just bec u dont think becaue u have no zoosexual tendencies, u think u can shoot off ur bigoted hypocricial mouth, zoophobe. i am determined to make zoosexual, necrophile, and pedophilia legal (animated child porn) just so i can say "screw u" to u disgusting gay lovers  ur a bigoted, ignorant stupid twit. and u will learn ur place soon.

Folly
Folly

@kobidobidog @jesopash  Yet again, I find you to be verifiably insane. I don't even know how you can function enough to use a keyboard, let alone make sentences.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog1 Peter 3 %s%s
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
Peace is what the zoo wants,but those against the zoo see peace as a piece of crap to flush down a toilet.

Phi: 2,.3Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.The zoo is seen by persecutors as being less than you. That is warring against them seeking vain glory.

1 Thessalonians 4:11:%s
And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

The people against people cannot do that either.They are biting at the bit tyo disobey that piece of instruction too.

Mark 12:31:And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

War Lords against the zoosexual can't keep that verse because waring is not loving anyone.

There is a war is against the zoo.  The zoo wars against no one.  Sex is not perverted.  Look all of these verse up.  All of them are interconnected describing the character of Satan not sex  or nudity.•    Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire this means deviant does not mean sex or nudity either.. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.KJV.


jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog@jesopash"OH yea,.... I know I will make a law and say it is an
arrestable offensive,... yea that's it.  Jesus did not do that, correct? That is what people do,  correct?" and yet Jesus plainly called out the legalistic for ignoring the weightier matters of the Law. He ragged on sin constantly. "condemning is satanic. God abhors condemners"You use a half truth about condemnation to tell a whole lie about conviction. A Christain talks about sin to please God and to bring about conviction, the very healing self admission that what you are doing is sin. Preach God's love and the world will give you a standing ovation. Mention the sin word even once and they will hate and crucify you like they did Jesus. All have sinned and fallen short kobi so the superiority accusation is kind of sad and betraying a lack of understanding of the Gospel message itself. Your morality completely skips the conviction part and just wanders on in preaching "love" and "acceptance" without ever talking about repentance. Jesus does not preach love and acceptance He preaches love and repentance. curse me as much as you like for telling the truth it will not change what we will both face God for. There is only one saving Grace on that day and that is Jesus. all of your sanctimonious talk will not change that unwavering standard. You think that being a "good person" is going to save you and that will be hellishly wrong. Repent before Christ it is your only chance, lashing out at me will not matter I am not who we have to answer to.

jesopash
jesopash

@kobidobidog@jesopashOKay l3et's actually crack open that KJV that you are so fond of

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, (you are very proud of what you are promoting) a lying tongue( that would take 2 seconds to prove in your case), and hands that shed innocent blood( bestiality is animal abuse),

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations(wicked imaginations? hmmmmmm...sexual perversions much?), feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren( so preaching a "new gospel" that ignores sin is not divisive and lying? really?).

20 My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother: (you are not doing that)

the next time you try to quote Scripture try doing it in context first.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@bulldozerbegins@kobidobidog

@jesopash@kobidobidog1 Peter 3 >>King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
Peace is what the zoo wants,but those against the zoo see peace as a piece of crap to flush down a toilet.

Phi: 2,.3Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.The zoo is seen by persecutors as being less than you. That is warring against them seeking vain glory.

 1 Thessalonians 4:11:King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

The people against people cannot do that either.They are biting at the bit tyo disobey that piece of instruction too.

Mark 12:31:And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

War Lords against the zoosexual can't keep that verse because waring is not loving anyone.

There is a war is against the zoo.  The zoo wars against no one.  Sex is not perverted.  Look all of these verse up.  All of them are interconnected describing the character of Satan not sex  or nudity.•    Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire this means deviant does not mean sex or nudity either.. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.KJV.


kobidobidog
kobidobidog

I use it exactly the away KJV was meant to be used.  Here are a lot of verses saying words that are tossed like piercing bullets at the zoosexual, but all of them overlap with each other with one of two things.  The spilling of innnocent blood,  and what comes out of the mouth. Non of them are connected to any fvorm of sex. 

People would like the KJV to be a thermonuclear weapon. Sex is not in these verses. All of the verses describe the character of people against the zoo, Jam::1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.

 


kobidobidog
kobidobidog

see Jesus who does not war .You see a god of war. Satan is the god of war .The one who is warped acts like I will do worse to you than them religious sodomites.  Yes I said religious sodomites. .Do your research showing you are not lazy. reading Isaiah 1, KJV, religious  practices by the sodomites, and Gomorrahean's .  look up.KJV, Genesis 19:. 9, undeniably people want to do worse to the one who at the end of the day has sex. There is a war against all forms of sex.  Have a person to young to murder  in war see them, and it is worse.  Gods light will be good to those that are good shining from the city of God after the redeemed come back to earth in the new Jerusalem .Read about it if you dare in Revelation 20,  KJV.  wicked are consumed not writhing in flames around the city of God forever.  Religions you trust in are compulsive liars.

 The following verses condemns those that do not follow them. Are you willing to condemn yours-soul to eternal death ignoring those laws supporting evil antichrist laws against a person who has sex?

 Matthew 7:2:For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Romans 2:1: Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things
Romans 14:10;King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ
Condemn see Gods glory as Hell.
I am coming to you like Moses came to the Pharaoh.Another obvious one one among many is the religions insistence that circumcision is cutting flesh. You trust in truth hiders. How can you insist they are right to condemn the zoo?.
9 places in KJV says the heart figuratively is to be circumcised not the penis tip at all. Deuteronomy 30:6, Deuteronomy %s ;Jeremiah 4:4 , Jeremiah %s; Colossians %s-15;Acts %s;Leviticus %s;Romans %s, Romans 3, 30, Islamic religious parallels the deceptions of the west. Truth has been hidden in a shroud of darkness.

 You trust in warring Baalim, and Baal  god worshipers which means the devil is your guide going after the zoosexual

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog Why do people ignore what Jesus did and did not do? That was God with blood in him dude. Had he be here he would not be in a group of people with a stone in hand glaring at a victim. The zoo deserves to have their mark on the LGBT. They deserve to have their small z added to it.

kobidobidog
kobidobidog

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog That is not wedlock you dolt. A person saw a man having sex kindly suggesting he get married. He proceeded to pay the Father a small sum of money sealing the deal. That is all. People today would call the police arresting him or worse.

vexx323
vexx323

@totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog


That is a part of Old Testament law, also known by all Jews as 'The Torah.' Given to Moses by God, the people were to follow this covenant until all prophecy had been fulfilled(Which Jesus did), successfully nullifying the 'Old Covenant,' as Christians call it. In the first books of the New Testament scripture, Jesus defines what rules Christians have to follow, otherwise known as the 'New Covenant.' "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength, and love your neighbor as yourself." Those are the two commandments that Jesus gave for us to follow. This in effect, completely nullifies the need for those who love God to follow the laws of the Torah. The book of Hebrews in the Bible solidifies this fact. Read it. 

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@totalbetty1234@kobidobidog   I thought you knew that if you are without sin cast the first stone?  Sex in the beginning is marriage.  The hardness of mens hearts wanted the legal system.Jesus the fulfillment of Gods law stops violent acts. I God directs me to the part of the bible I should go. Sometimes it is investigating a word.  The people that go against God refusing to be like Jesus is will be punished. The people that punish now will be the people that will be-punished then. The people saying this sex is wrong or nudity is indecent or that o person is wrong jailing them act like the enemy of Jesus not considering their soul.  I am a defender of the Gay.  Sodomites are against them.  Sodomites want worse for others. They wanted to do worse to Lot. Sex in the beginning was two becoming one.  People clambered for legalized paper. Wisdom of men. I want to stop the hate which is murder. I want people to be peacefully minded like the Bonobo.The zoosexuals Pedo's gays, furries of the furry Fandom are peacefully minded like the Bonobo.I do not see them as sick at all.Mu y heart has been going out to them for a long time. Religion perverted minds for a long time. I have been countering  them with truth in their own book.

 One example.  It will take some time looking up the verses.  It will be clear that the words do not mean sex or nakedness like religions taught Hollywood to teach us, and the dictionary too.

 Religions misinformed us about what the word defiled, abominable, perverted, and naughty meant fueling a persecuting fire. James:1 20 - 21, Pro: 6:12, Pro: 17: 4, Jer: 24,2, Sam: 17,28, zero about sex or nudity. Pro: 17:23, Pro: 15 4, Job 6 - 30, Pro: 12 -8, Isa: 30 -12, 1 Tim: 6 -5, Deut: 16 -19, Job 8 -3, Jer: 23 -36, Gal: 1 -7, Ecc:, 5 -8, Mic: 3 -9, Pro: 19 1, Pro: 4 24, Pro: 3, 32, Pro: 12; 22, Pro: 20 :10, Pro: 6;16, Heb: 12:15: Isa: 59 -3, Mat: 15 - 11, Mark, 7 - 15, Mark 13:14.


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@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog Jesus fulfilled the law in his life.The law he fulfilled is love. Love forgives many times like 7x70. Love does not say arrest. Love does not say off with your head either.

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@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog The covenant of God is the law I just typed being written on the heart. Romans 13:10.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
people want ill to be done to the people I defend. Therefore  breaking God's law.

KJV Pure cambridge edition bibles. Read the 1900.

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@vexx323 @totalbetty1234 @kobidobidog God's law, GOD'S law you want to talk about God's law? I will yell you what God's law is. You had better listen and consider what God's law says or be ashes under the feet of the righteous. You got me? James 3:17 - But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Luke 6:36 - Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
1 Peter 2:12 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
John 13:34 - :A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

1611 King James Version of Romans 13:10 - Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

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@vexx323 @totalbetty1234

 The damn Quran is not holy. Nothing on earth is holy. God's holy light is fire to whatever dies. His spirit in the body to be like Jesus is is the only thing that will keep whoever from thinking they are looking at the sun shining unimpeded through the atmosphere when God shows up as he is. People must have Jesus in them now before they die or end up in Satan's prison to wait to be judged to become ashes in God's light.  Muslims are worshiping the one Devil who has nothing good to give lying about what Satan looks like. Allah who is Satan lies about everything in the Quran.  Satan is a bright fallen angel. There are no answers at all in the Muslims green book. Look at how the words are strung together. Muslims need to look narrowly upon the Quran. The God of life would never say what is in the Quran.
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4.
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them, Qur’an 8:12..
Page 595: #08.1When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasies from Islam, he deserves to be killed.
Look at the King James Bible. It gives instructions.
James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
Luke 6:36
- Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Romans 12:9 - 9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Matthew 5:9 - 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Hebrews 13:1-6 -  Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
1 Peter 2:12
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
John 13:34
:A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

 
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