What motivated them? "They were the vainest people who ever lived," Atwill says. "They wanted to make sure that posterity knew they had subdued the Jews through a fake religion.

Some of this has been explored by other scholars. Robert Eisenman, professor of religion at California State University, Long Beach, one of the participants in the movie, says he was long familiar with the practice of "overwriting" texts, "people taking texts and writing over them." He himself suggested, in his 1997 book, James the Brother of Jesus, that the Gospels had been written over to give them a "pro-Roman slant."

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Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus, premieres at the Laemmle Music Hall 3, 9036 Wilshire Blvd., Beverly Hills, Friday, September 28, at 7 p.m. and runs through October 4. After the premiere screening, Joseph Atwill, Robert Eisenman, and filmmakers Fritz Heede and Nijole Sparkis will answer questions.

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ralf.ellis
ralf.ellis

Atwill's evidence for this is circumstantial. But the gospel events did take place in the late AD 60s, which is why Jesus describes the siege of Jerusalem in Luke 19:43.

If you want the complete evidence for this, and find out who Jesus really was, you need to read 'King Jesus' and 'Jesus, King of Edessa'.

JNarro
JNarro

Einstein was a nobody patent clerk when he rocked the world with his Relativity Theory. Maverick scholars are far more original than most institutionally authorized scholars.

johnhudson41
johnhudson41

jwatts2 clearly has no clue about how to research anything so anything he says cannot be trusted. the fact is that  Awill's book was published by Ulysses Press.

jwatts2
jwatts2

So, um... a "self-taught" scholar who publishes his own book... and no doubt self-produced this "documentary" is somehow credible? The book is worthless, and the ideas so 19th century - mixed with a little of the birtherism conspiracy from today. 

johnhudson41
johnhudson41

Have you ever wondered if Jesus really existed? Atwill's book finally explains  what the gospels really are, and how they were created after the Roman-Jewish war,  as Roman war propaganda--- to prevent the spread of Jewish militarized religion, and replace it with pacifism.  Hopefully these ideas can become more widely known as the Los Angeles screening is followed many others around the country. 

 

jwatts2
jwatts2

 @johnhudson41 actually, the 2011 book says Createspace - a self publishing company. Further, John - you are hardly an unbiased source here. Further, UP is hardly an actual publishing house. 

MagersheyFlavius
MagersheyFlavius

 @jwatts2 So, um... Even if what you say is true, how does that make the Caesar's Messiah thesis not credible? Either Atwill is right, or he is wrong. (FTR, I think he's right.)

 

Why is the book worthless? What ideas are from the 19th century? And where is the "birtherism conspiracy from today"?

 

I really wish those who criticize Caesar's Messiah would actually take the time to read the book first...

jwatts2
jwatts2

 @MagersheyFlavius I did. He is wrong. The basis of his "thesis" is without merit. The research is poor, and the outcomes manufactured first. 

 

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