Matt: Our second show was our second and third show, just because we went from one place to another. We went straight from the Talent Farm to Churchill's basically.  

Conor: I think, more or less, why I'm excited to play shows is we've created something. It's just fun to display what you helped make. And that people actually enjoy it, that's just a bonus on top of it. 

Nico: It's challenging in a way. Depends on how you look at it. I've played in bands with two guitars, and in this band, I play one guitar and sing, so it's like exploring them musical dynamics just to challenge yourself. Every time I join a new band, I try to join a new band that will teach me something new musically, even though it's usually punk and super ignorant. I have this other band I started with a friend, Nun Hex, and I play bass in it. 

Nico: I think the more you get into it, the more you help evoke the emotions of what the music's trying to say. Especially, lately, we've gotten to the point as a band we need to sort of go to the next level. Try to focus on why you're playing. Make it a full performance and not just a set of songs. 

Conor: I feel like if we can't get into it, how can we expect other people to get into it. I enjoy the music that we make. To touch on what Nico said, about having that high energy to play, I use it as a decoy to make it seem like I'm playing good. (Laughs) It's like, you messed up a lot, but you're moving around. 

Matt: I would say that jumping to this next level of performing is pretty difficult for me. The music itself is tiring and then performing, and giving it your all and then putting on this front to show, hey, we're not just playing this hectic music, but we're looking super pissed off while we're playing it! The emotion as well as the playing is the most draining thing for me. The whole performance aspect is difficult, but I feel like we're successful at it because these last few shows that we've played, people have been like, some of the compliments we heard, have been pretty crazy. We stick out, so that's what I like. 

Matt: The best way to describe this, is, from my aspect is, someone will come up with one riff and it'll be awesome, and then we find ourselves writing a bunch of riffs around this one riff and we can't believe how hard it is to write the riffs around this one simple riff, and we find ourselves writing the most complex riffs. And then we're like, this kind of just sounds like shit. We're doing all of this work for this one riff that sounds really good. 

Nico: We just write the song around it, trying to glorify this one riff. I want everyone to hear it as cool as I hear it in my head. 

Conor: I'm honestly surprised we're able to write anything the way we do it. I don't know how other bands work, because I haven't been in another band that I liked making music for. But, I'm sure they don't go like, this part's cool, that should be in a song somewhere. Or one of us will write an entire song, and then just show it to the others and say, fix all of the stuff that I couldn't and we kind of help each other build off of it. 

Conor: I'll be looking at Nico and go like, make a sound that's kind of like (makes weird guitar sound) and he'll be like, oh, OK. We do that a lot. I don't know how Matt understands what I tell him when I say, play a drum beat that, and I just literally move my hands and not verbalize anything. 

Matt: The one thing I like. It's my job to read other musicians. When it comes to playing with Nico, I can read him, and when it comes to reading Conor, I can read him, cause I've played with them separately. Together, they're really good at communicating with each other, and at the same time, I have to follow one or the other. Their energy together, their playing is two different extremes. When they get together, it's a giant clusterfuck.