Clean Plate Charlie:Let's start with the basics. Why did you decide to get involved with Flavors of Fort Lauderdale?
Susser: I liked the idea of creating an event that got the chefs together to showcase the local talent and lifestyle. In Miami there are coordinated efforts with fundraisers and getting the chefs together, eating in each others restaurants. I would like to see more of that in Fort Lauderdale. What I see with events up here is that so many chefs show up to events and then disappear. It seems like everyone is in their own little world. I want Flavors to become a bonding program, where people come together to discuss issues that are important to chefs and get them involved.
Obviously, you're well-known for your efforts with sustainable seafood. Was that a huge determining factor in your involvement with the event?
I've been working with sustainable seafood for eight to ten years now. So far, we've been sort of behind the times here, in terms of awareness, but I think we're really starting to get it. Luckily, a lot of local chefs are doing local and farm-to-table cuisine, but not so much with seafood. This is our natural resource. We're on a peninsula. Fish and the oceans are not only a livelihood for many people, but a huge recreational activity, as well: fishing, diving. We need to make the connection that out water systems aren't as durable as we make them out to be. I want to use this event to draw attention to the issues surrounding this natural resource.
Why do you think sustainable seafood is such an important issue? You mentioned that our water systems aren't as durable as we think. Can you expand upon that?
These are tough times with different elements putting pressure on water systems. Sometimes Lake Okeechobee is too low. Sometimes it's too high, then we have to let water out which creates problems with red algae. We're seeing food sources start to disappear. Global warming and warmer water temperatures are changing the fishes and other marine life's natural environment.
Many chefs have issues that they try to defend. Why did you choose sustainable seafood?
I always liked fresh fish in cooking and I always enjoyed fishing. I feel like using fish is a great way to display local, regional cooking.Chef Allen's focused solely on local seafood. That actually made me different from the rest. I never sold salmon; yeah, people would get upset, but everyone else had it on the menu. I really got into about 15 years ago with swordfish--they were dropping like flies. When I started serving it you would get a center cut the size of this table [he gestures to the round table at which we were seated--about two and a half feet in diameter]. They dropped to about half or a third of that size. Chefs around the country got together in a national campaign, refusing to buy swordfish. We put up a strong stance and made a difference. About three or four years ago, they reopened the fisheries, and the swordfish were back to the same size. I saw that you really could affect change--which is really cool.
Besides the swordfish campaign, how have you been involved in sustainable seafood?
I got involved with the Monterrey Bay Aquarium about ten years ago. I love the program. They started Seafood Watch about twelve years ago. Originally, it they created a chart for restaurants and patrons to see what they should and should not order. Now, they have gotten a lot more sophisticated with regional pamphlets. You can download a southeastern pamphlet, which will tell you what is ok to eat out of gulf waters and the south Atlantic up to the Carolinas as opposed something in California, or Washington, or Maine. We have different fisheries and they've nailed it down to that, which makes a lot more sense. I'm on the seafood and aquaculture advisory board for the Florida Department of Agriculture. I've been helping to guide them into encouraging more acquaculture. Aquaculture is not necessarily bad. It could be bad, but there is aquaculture that makes sense as long as you have respect for the volume and where you're doing it. I also got involved with some folks at the Smithsonian in D.C. when they opened an exhibition focusing on the worlds oceans. They wanted to get involved with sustainable seafood and I helped them get involved with some people locally and nationally. I had known the head curators from the museum for quite a while. When they opened the museum, we did a nationwide food exhibit. We did a dinner right in the museum, it was the first time they had ever done that.